2012-04-20
Algeria debates voter abstention penalty
By Fidet Mansour for Magharebia in Algiers - 20/04/12
As part of Algeria's effort to encourage citizens to participate in the May 10th legislative election, the human rights commission suggested that people be forced to vote.
Farouk Ksentini, chairman of the National Consultative Committee for the Protection and Promotion of Human Rights (CNCPPDH), on April 7th proposed that there should be a punishment for those who fail to vote.
Political party members and Algerian citizens reacted to Ksentini's plan with disdain.
"We need to find suitable punishment for this negative behaviour," Ksentini said. Abstention is "inadmissible" in a country where more than a million martyrs have given their lives "to secure the right to vote", he said.
According to Ksentini, the government can't be held accountable when the people have failed to vote, which is the minimum demanded of them.
Front for Change (FC) leader Abdelmadjid Menasra said he was "clearly not encouraged" by Ksentini's proposal. However, the leader of the Islamist-leaning party said that it was "important to analyse the reason behind electors boycotting the ballot box".
Voices from the streets of Algeria both made suggestions on encouraging voters to participate as well as condemned the notion of a forced vote.
Amrouch Krim, 28, a university student, said that in order to encourage people to vote, "you simply have to make elections transparent, clean and honest."
"If voting is a means of democratic expression, then abstention is also a means of expression; a rejection or refusal of a particular situation," he said.
Amine, 40, said that no-one will turn out to vote if they are "pressured to do it". "The authorities need to give the necessary political guarantees for a free election before demanding that the electorate vote on May 10th."
Amira Selimi, 25, a public employee, maintained that "forcing citizens to vote is an idea from another time," and that it would be "impossible" or even "unimaginable" to apply it today.
The spectre of abstention has cast a shadow over the leaders of the political parties as May's legislative elections draw nearer. But they have proposed a different approach from that suggested by the CNCPPDH chairman to deal with it.
Miloud Chorfi, the spokesman for the National Democratic Rally (RND), part of the governing coalition, is pinning his hopes on raising Algerian voter awareness.
"Mobilisation and public awareness are fundamental to ensuring a high level of turnout for the legislative elections on May 10th," Chorfi said. The most important thing for members of the public is "that they be made aware of the issues affecting them in different areas," he added.
Recognising that the proposed punishment for abstainers may in fact have encouraged those who were thinking of voting to abstain, Algerian Popular Movement (MPA) leader Amara Benyounes, has chosen a very special method to mobilise voters. At every public appearance, he has issued a warning about a strong resurgence of Islamists if there was a high level of abstention.
Benyounes warns that "all the militants will be turning out for the ballot box, come snow, wind or earthquake."
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![[AFP/Fayez Nureldine] Ahmed Ouyahia's RND is suggesting a voter awareness campaign to encourage participation in the May 10th legislative election.](/awi/images/2012/04/20/120420Feature3Photo1-271_179.jpg)
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aouf 2012-5-5
The reasons for abstaining are as follows: the election police’s monitoring of candidates is not known to the public or the parties (with the exception of the FLN and RND); the party leaders lack political competence; and the citizens are dissatisfied with the high cost of living, unemployment, discrimination, the distribution of housing, the bureaucratic red tap, the lack of transparency in managing business and the inequality between the parliamentarians’ pay and the citizens’ pay.
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Républicain 2012-5-4
To لا وصاية في الانتخاب - “people who don’t even know the limits of their province have run for the elections, the ignorant candidates topped the lists, “bribery is spread …” You do not know that Algeria is organised into wilayas, which is to say departments? What Algeria are you talking about? Is it the Algeria of certain unspeakable interests brandished by the offices that are as servile as they are harmful to the truth and these famous human rights, which are a pure pretext for their shady moralising rhetoric? Must it be emphasised again and again that Algeria has come out of a 132-years “colonial night” and its rebellious people experienced genocide coupled with ethnocide and it has had only a half century to build its institutions and its democracy and its culture, which is a long path unique to each people. This reminder is just to say that this people is its own model and they cannot accept an imposed model of democracy, model of society or model of development. Farouk Ksentini was not at all wrong in saying that voting is a right and an obligation at the same time because while the blank vote is an acceptable mode of expression abstention is a mark of disinterest in the res public and the democracy (even if our imposed model, made elsewhere, calls for a lot of essential reforms in time). The people who are most demanding of social benefits – and I am not speaking about the poor, who are not the biggest profiteers, but far from it – are also the most virulent detractors of the system that they are attacking for bad reasons. In certain so-called developed countries, participating in the election is an obligation. This is not an Algerian fad. …
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H'mimed 2012-5-1
To نبيل بوصرة- If you are really looking to push your **chmilblik** and not just spin in circles, criticising for criticism’s sake, you would first seriously study the electoral laws in force in Algeria, and since no law is without its inconsistency, you would, moreover, start with the sources of the legal system in its entirety (with the exception of the personal statutes) and your would note in two words that the “imposed model” is the one being challenged, firstly, because it is imposed; secondly, because it is not a model; and, thirdly, because Algeria has its own model. But, no, that does not interest you. You dive into the semblance of an analysis of law by using foreign terminology: the word “district” does not exist in Algeria’s administrative organisation, which proves that you do not posses the right lens or the right perspective for interpretation. So, if you want to explain the general disinterest in ballots in the North and South, you need to point your criticisms at the failed, dilapidated model and where it was born and you need to conclude that it is deeper and more serious than your biased verbiage. But this approach is not yours. Your aim is to howl with the wolves and prescribe cures that kill the patient: abstention, which benefits the rabid repeat offenders who still get their abundant financing and their instruction manual from the crazy sorcerers. These sorcerers set the world to blood and fire in the name of this calamity of the “Arab spring”, which is worse than an invasion of locusts, which leave nothing in their wake except desolation, terror, tears and so on. But we are going to vote as a single person on May 10th, 2012 and we will be a dam before these mercenaries because we are engaged in the fight to reform our entire system. We do not need apathetic, half-hearted, double-faced people.
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عمر العزيز 2012-5-1
Rely on God, let’s vote compulsorily! This is of course democracy and transparency!
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"Dis moi si tu votes,je te dirai qui tu es!" 2012-4-30
If you do not vote, you give up this right and you shirk your obligation, and you are, despite everything, responsible for the consequences. Tomorrow, will you give up criticizing politics and the leaders? Quite clearly no. The biggest complainers, the biggest negative-ists, the biggest pains are the people who do not take responsibility and throw the blame on others. Those who claim the freedom not to vote should have the decency to shut up because their criticism is null and void!!! Those who fulfill their obligation with regards to the collective – without which there would be nothing – have the right to claim their due and to criticize that which is not to their liking. “Tell me if you vote, and I will tell you who you are!” For our people and for our children’s radiant future, if God so will it!
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Anonymous 2012-4-29
What we have left in power is executioners and scavengers, who are after one rotten apple. What a shame for our Algeria.
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a.ali [email protected] 2012-4-28
Dear corrupt people, we are all above the law. You poor corrupt people, you and your colleagues ate everything up.
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Citoyen debout !!! 2012-4-28
To Allal, my brother in God- It is true, but not voting this coming May 10th means offering up Algeria on a platter to these hyenas, who are thirsty for the blood of the people and receive orders from abroad. Is that better? And what will you say on the morning of May 11th? Yes, the parliamentarians form a parasitic class, which is only interested in its own privileges and is not worthy of its mission. This class betrays and ruins the content of the democracy, imitating thereby the anti-models imposed by and made in the Northern Hemisphere and fooling the people and so on. Okay! But, this problem needs to be dealt with democratically in the appropriate time and place. There is no need to mix everything up; otherwise it will be chaos! Let us go vote in mass for those who preserve our national sovereignty and let us demand our rights. Our people are capable of this!
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khellaf-34 2012-4-28
If the reason is known, there is no more room for astonishment. Elections are the most sublime civilised behavior in the practice of power or involvement of the people in running their affairs which is a social claim for which caravans of martyrs are sacrificed. However, sanctioning the people for their boycott especially with the suggestion of the chief of the human rights protection and promotion committee, the issue is very, very odd! We have to look at causes of abstention and boycott, (if the reason is known, there no more room for astonishment) in order to mobilise citizens to participate in such historical moments. We should know the trend of the public opinion so that we won’t swim upstream and sing outside the flock. The Algerian who didn’t spare his blood, money and jewels of his a family for his homeland after independence, deserves that we ask ourselves why is he turning his back to such decisive moments after rich people rush to them?
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Fils d' Algérie 2012-4-27
To vote is to exist!!! It means not leaving the battlefield open to the furious. It means being a man and not deserting the battle when the danger is in your face! It means not skiving at the decisive moment and then whining when terror reigns and no one – no woman, child or old person – is spared any longer. Voting means taking responsibility for mortals. Voting means giving the politics the opportunity to change our lives, and there is so much to change beyond the models imposed by those who lurk in the shadows, pull the strings and want to see us again in chaos, which clearly only profits them. Let us vote and be many to ask God for that which is greatest for our children and for Algeria, the mother of all of us!!!
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مصطفي 2012-4-26
If he is in a situation of comparison with any democratic regime, he should come up with solutions. But if it is something else, he should stay away from populism which spoilt natures and understand reasons. The first of these is justice in legal proceedings, then respect for the humanity of the people. The simplest example is what we see with our own eyes. Authorities don’t react with simplest acts, only when young people block roads or during the visit of an official. This is what has broken all relations of trust, let alone interactions between the two sides. I hope you will accept criticism wholeheartedly as it is the basis of reform and improvement.
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Dz. 2012-4-26
To Mahcen! Are you part of the supporters of the green flag instead of the flag of a million and a half martyrs (may God welcome them into his vast paradise)? Are you part of these mercenaries who receive their financing and their instructions from abroad in Doha and elsewhere? Do you belong to this coalition that threatens our states, our existence and our sacred Islam in the name of a new religion improperly called “democracy” (since it is in fact a manipulation that robs the people of their prerogative and aims to enslave and further impoverish them in favour of foreign interests that continue to skim off our national resources)? Are you facilitating the task of the people’s predatory sharks in the name of this usurpation of democracy? Are you really thinking about what you say? Not everything that glitters is gold!!! The tom-tom of the Western and Qatari agencies have nothing to do with the truth. They are a smokescreen to mask their consistent and notorious intentions of pillaging our continent to the detriment of our lives!
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نبيل بوصرة 2012-4-26
The Algerian proverb says “he wanted to apply kohl to the eye but he blinded it” (he added fuel to the fire). It is odd that such suggestions emanate from the human rights organization instead of making suggestions for more openness for opposition and granting more political freedoms for the citizen. But here it is adding insult to injury by coming up with such suggestions instead of looking for real causes of the apathy of citizens to elections. The mode of elections proposed by the administration is the direct cause of abstention in addition to other causes that are considered the core of human rights. For example, when legislation says that every 8000 citizens has the right to one representative then the administration comes and makes candidacy on the basis of a nominal list for every district, this makes representations impossible. This is because in this case and as it is noticed, candidates on tops of lists are mostly citizens who live in the capitals of districts. Therefore, parliamentary representation is monopolized by candidates from biggest cities. For this reason, rural areas and districts located outside the capitals of districts are thus not represented, unlike the previous system which made candidacy independent in every constituency and in this way parliamentary representation is more democratic. However, current legislation doesn’t stipulate this method of elections because article 92 of the electoral act stipulates that candidates in independent lists are required by law to submit, in addition to the candidacy file, 400 signatures for every seat which is to be occupied. This article which is general in its content doesn’t require candidacy in all seats of the district unlike what the administration requires. In other words, the independent candidate can run for the seat of the constituency where he lives. This is stressed in article 84 of the same law which expressly stipulates that a district can be divided into several constituencies. Finally, how can an administration encourage people to vote in big numbers while at the same time it put restrictions to candidates? This might be one reason. There are many other reasons. Therefore, this fine is a real source of derision. Officials in this organization should know that such suggestions will only make the Algerian people shun more ballot boxes because it is supposed that real causes are found.
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tihaohao 2012-4-26
This is really weird for a human rights activist!?!
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ALLAL 2012-4-25
Voting means encouraging these thieves. Not one of these people is working for the good of the people. If these thieves did not get 40 million in pay, none of them would run. No cat hunts for Good Lord. A cat hunts for himself and himself alone.
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لا وصاية في الانتخاب 2012-4-25
The chief of the Advisory Committee for Human Rights shouldn’t have suggested anything because bills are determined by the constitution. Is his suggestion consistent with human rights? Of course no, compulsion to vote is unacceptable and it is a violation of human rights. Years ago, there was an uprising against the will of the people in the name of the silent majority “no word can be attributed to someone silent”. Today, when people wanted to speak out, they were silenced. When they chose silence, they wanted to force them to say “yes”. In order to judge people for their silence and passivity, you have to be positive, follow up their issues and solve their problems. Farouk Ksentini should have called for human rights included in the international covenant for civil and political rights, the international covenant for economic and social rights which were approved by Algeria. If he succeeds in this, then people will vie to vote. Look at the lists of candidates at the national level and the place of intellectuals then you can make suggestions. Why was the suggesting of an intellectual level for candidates refused? Therefore, people who don’t even know the limits of their province have run for the elections, the ignorant candidates topped lists, “bribery” is spread to run for elections and illegitimate ways are used in the electoral campaign. If an affair is assigned to someone not fit for it, just wait for the doomsday! Present candidates who can convince people, act to meet the aspirations of people then you can talk about controlling the ideas of people!
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aissa28310 2012-4-24
If we really want to convince people to vote, we have to reconsider the salary of the parliamentarian. Instead of 30 million, let’s make it only 10 million and limit powers. Then we will see who will run for the elections since the process is optional.
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citoyenzawalidimocrati 2012-4-24
It is up to us to think about our own democratic model and up to us to review the rules of the democratic game that are the most effective, the most fair and the most respectful of the people’s wishes. Representation is one of these rules of the game that must be fully reviewed. The mission of representation should no longer be the business of wheeling and dealing, venal “nomenklatura” or the toy of lobbies in the name of representing the people. There are already many of us who reject this misguided model, which has nothing democratic about it. Politics must no longer be the product of careerist wheeler-dealers, but the place for all of the hopes of the demos. This implies that the field not be left open so that it profits only the extremes and the opportunists. Under other skies, the ones who set themselves up as the intergalactic model for the political class have not only “people-ised”, but also got themselves “jet sets” so that they can spend two out of every four weekends in Doha. This is the must of the must!!! They are closer to the powerful global lobbies than to the sovereign people, who are the produces of all the wealth and the possessors of the only legitimacy that there is!!!
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citoyenzawalidimocrati 2012-4-24
To Alaouiche- Well, if you mean to say that the financial situation and the various privileges attract profiteers and rascals, deform the mission of representation and, consequently, democracy – if that is what you mean to say, then I completely agree with you! The issue of democracy needs to be seriously supported by the citizens on the basis of integrity and commitment to the progress of their nation’s society. Yes, there exist several prerequisites to the proper functioning of democracy, beginning with the legal, domestic, transparent and fair financing of all political parties at all times and not just during election campaigns. This is a fundamental issue and the basis for the democratic game. There are other prerequisites that we will not discuss here today, but the behaviour of the political class of all stripes is one of the levels where popular sovereignty is diverted or even confiscated. This political class operated for its privileges and betrays the representation of its voters, who gave it their mandate and its legitimacy. They should be accountably for their record. We note that at this level, the game is not working and the parties that continue to register on ballots are not the most democratic or the most competent or the best, but the most venal and most aggressive. My brother, this issue should be the subject of a serious debate between citizens because the problem spans all political movements and all political parties without exception. Our ancestors were closer to Plato’s republic than we are because of the bully system that was imposed on us. They thus want to impose on us all the dictatorial excesses of ultra-liberal capitalism …
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LeCarthaginois 2012-4-24
What he said is stupid. Forcing the voters to vote is an attack on personal freedoms. The truth is that we have the right to vote, but no one can force us to do it. “White votes” mean that we did not find what we were looking for, but abstaining means that we are fed up with the politicians. So, if they force us to vote, how do we say this to the politicians? By a revolt, maybe?
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شاهين الجزائري 2012-4-24
In the name of God the most gracious the most merciful. Peace and blessings of God be upon Mohamed. God is witness to what I say. The overwhelming majority of the Algerian people don’t consider that they are concerned by legislative elections.People didn’t vote in the previous legislative elections. It is the regime which inflates the number of participations. They consider them disgraceful elections. Salam alikum.
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kamel 2012-4-24
I do not know what to say.
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ras khchine 2012-4-23
I was born free. I will not vote to legitimise a corrupt regime that squanders our national wealth or an oppressive and manipulative government that robs us of our voices. I will not vote because I will not participate in the burying of our republic! May the people who want to attack us show themselves! The people have a cure for your electoral masquerades!
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fares 2012-4-23
Every time a new invention! By God, in which country can this happen? But everything is possible in my dear country, may God protect it! The teacher asked the pupil “does the fox procreate or ovulates?” the pupil replied “it is cunning sir, you can expect anything from it!” Did you get what I mean? I hope so.
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sarmouk nazim 2012-4-23
I think that the tax is to punish the people.
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Anonymous 2012-4-22
In order to fight against voter abstention on May 10th, 2012, it is imperative that the ballot lists be revised and the former vultures who have monopolised the elections for several years be distanced from it. They are playing a game of chess, with one party moving then another. What is more, the former scammers who brought the country to its knees need to be condemned, particularly the ones who took part in closing social and economic businesses, not to mention in the affair with Al Kalifa Bank.
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سمير الجزائري 2012-4-22
Peace and mercy of God be upon you. The proverb says “the longer you live, the more information you hear.”
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mahcen 2012-4-22
Firstly, the question asked is how and in what way were the recent parties created? Allow me to say that it is nonsense and that you will note that the majority of these parties came from existing parties like the FLN, the RND and Hamas! So, there is nothing new in the political landscape. And this is why the majority of the population is judging it pointless to bother themselves with voting because it is always the same opportunists who are running. For example, you will note that the candidates on the ballots in Constantine are known and are presenting themselves with false titles and are breaking the law by pretending to hold offices in a way that warrants criminal punishment. They have gotten away with despite an investigation (meaning there is complicity). And for reasons like these, there is still a boycott of the vote being put forward. –Thank you (My advice is as follows: the clan that is currently running the country (the president, the government, etc.) needs to take an interest in clearing out before it is too late. Thank you, again.)
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mourad uk 40 2012-4-22
it better to keep bouteflika to avoid all this fitna
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alaouchiche 2012-4-22
If Parliament did not pay millions, no one would run for office unless they did not fear God. This is because being in Parliament means enforcing the law on the weak citizens – particularly for the Arabs…the Korish Arabs.
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ghaouti 2012-4-21
As if by a simple stroke of chance, these are the two most incompetent leaders to have spoken on this subject. Should we give anyone a voice or should we be punished if we refuse? One is a big name. He is a former football commentator without a university education, who, by force of circumstance, became a magnate of the party-politicking backstage and a moralising lesson-giver. The other is a high commissioner of human rights who is a coward disguised as someone who creates modes for punishing people if they abstain. He is an old man with a new look incapable of making the slightest effort to support the victims of all this. He is a wimpy and faithful drudge for the government. Do you think it is normal that such men can dictate to use what is realistic and what is fictional? Make one last effort and ask yourselves this ridiculous, but simultaneously serious question: “Do they really have Algeria in their hearts?” If not, how do you explain this existential anarchy?
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djalil amine 2012-4-21
Talking about penalties for people who abstain means that we are not in a democracy. Abstaining is also a form of expression.
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cani 2012-4-21
Keeping silent to the mad is considered an answer.
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محمد 2012-4-20
In reality, the cause of voter abstention is very clear as they lived in the last period without parliament since authorities wanted so. They didn’t give an opportunity for voters to debate or vote and in all councils. This made the citizen disinterested about the representative and elections. The citizen says: why should I vote? Authorities didn’t let those who represent me act in order to make my voice reach it. The same thing was done by media outlets. They highlighted boycott, boycott so that the citizen just followed as it did toy young people about harga (illegal immigration) to the other shore to the point that everyone likes to immigrate to Europe. The same thing for pouring oil, claiming a house and so on. These ways which are adopted by the media outlets is wrong and bear a lot of harm. But unfortunately our media outlets seek the highest gains not the education of society. These media outlets in our country drive citizens to ruin. Have mercy on Algerians o media professionals!
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essah 2012-4-20
This Farouk Ksentini is only a middle man in the system and a corrupt person. He holds no importance in the eyes of the population. He will end up on the stake.
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الراضي. 2012-4-20
Forcing the voter to vote is in reality a limitation of the freedom of the voter, an insult and humiliation. Saying no is just the same as saying yes for anything whether it is positive or negative. However, the voter has the choice. His failure to vote is in itself a suspended expression, neutrality and refusal of no or yes at the same time. It is a message addressed to the politician, administrator and the state as a whole of non-satisfaction with decision makers who ever they are and with their different political trends. It is also a refusal with silence and quietness. A reporter.
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