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   ثابت الزغبى الجندى 2011-8-25

   This is occupation of Libya.

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   Essid 2011-7-4

   To Hakim- You fault me because you think that I overlook the geopolitical implications of a NATO intervention in Libya for the region. It is rather that you overlook the domestic and geopolitical implications of Kadhafi’s actions. I am aware that NATO’s mission is not humanitarian, but to guarantee its influence in Libya. However, I am also aware that Kadhafi used heavy weapons to massacre his own population. And, unlike the ungrounded alarmism you propagate about NATO massacres in Libya, there is actually photographic and video evidence of Kadhafi’s army massacring civilians, and this evidence started decades ago, culminating in large-scale massacres in early February, a month before the NATO intervention. This is not a demonisation of Kadhafi; it is a fact. And I take into account that Kadhafi and NATO both have sordid histories of violence and even that NATO’s history is worse than that of Kadhafi. (This is not to say that Kadhafi does not deserve to be tried and sentenced by the ICC, but that Kadhafi and some of the leaders of NATO all deserve it.) However, I must also take into account the present. There is no evidence of NATO committing atrocities in Libya, but there is a lot of evidence of Kadhafi committing atrocities now and well before the NATO intervention. As such, my position is pragmatic: I am supporting the option that will – as far as the evidence shows – save the most Libyan lives. As for the long term, NATO will have no choice but to exit Libya because its support will disappear with Kadhafi. This is not “Singular Thought”. I make no attempt to glorify NATO.

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   Hakim 2011-6-23

   To Essid- Your delirium is distressing. Your words make no sense. You have descended to the lowest levels in the absence of a wello-grounded argument, since you persist in defending the indefensible: the present “singular thought” on the Libyan tragedy, whose NTC gang, which allied with NATO and were only yesterday Kadhafi's zealots, you qualify them as “revolutionary”. Obviously, revolution is a foreign idea to you. Positioning yourself on the side of the intervention in Libya according to the law of 'might equals right' hardly makes your argument credible. For proof, your discourse to demonise the character of Kadhafi rather than and instead of any political or strategic analysis of globalisation and dividing up of the world according to Riper’s New World Map, in which some people do not figure. Your incoherent diatribe is indicative of the indefensible position that is your own. The logic of 'might equals right' is wrong! The policy that consists of throwing the baby out with the bathwater can only gain followers among the mentally ill and opportunists. Justifying the massacre of innocents with the imperial concern for neutralising a dictator is a false and perverse step because these are tyrants who have the blood of millions of victims on their hands. Consult sources free from the “singular thought” and you will have the biggest list of criminals of our era. Your dubious mix-ups are indicative of the weakness of your argument and of their nauseating underlying ideology.

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   Essid 2011-6-22

   To Hakim- In this case, if I am a fascist because I say that it was a necessary evil that the Libyan revolutionaries had to resort to violence to oust Kadhafi, a much greater evil, then I suppose most of your Algerian compatriots are fascists too since they are proud of the way in which your grandfathers and fathers resorted to violence against the French colonisers. I am sure that you will try to “explain” that there is a difference between Kadhafi and the French colonisers, but honestly the only difference is that while violently imposing their regimes on populations, Kadhafi claimed to be Arab, Muslim and African and the French colonisers claimed to be better than the Arabs and Muslims and Africans. Kadhafi and the French colonisers both committed kidnappings, tortures, wrongful imprisonments, rape, murder and massacres; they both pillaged the resources of territories over which they reigned, leaving the populations to deadly poverty and malnourishment; and they both had local collaborators, who died because of the violence. And just like in Libya, where the revolutionaries and, to a much greater degree, the dictatorial regime have killed many people who never condoned violence, the Algerian revolutionaries and, to a much greater degree, the colonial regime have killed many people who never condoned violence. So, enough of the double standards. If the revolutionaries are fascists, then so too was your liberation front. And if I am a fascist for supporting them, then so too are any Algerians who support Algeria’s violently won independence.

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   HAKIM 2011-6-15

   To Essid- “A necessary evil”!? This line of thought is exactly the fascist pathology! Who has the right to decide what should be a “necessary evil”? After God, it is the sovereign people and no one else! What about when the remedy kills the patient?!? These experts in democracy and human rights are only crazy magicians who are leading the world to chaos. They are the same ones who led the world wars and the other holocausts. Humanity upright is not required to condone ignominy! The movement of the natives started by the young people angry with Spain and then continued in Greece and soon throughout all of Europe and even the world is loudly shouting: “Stop the excesses of the cannibalistic capitalistic system!”

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   Essid 2011-6-12

   To Hakim- Libya’s situation is not ideal, I agree. I do not think that anyone will disagree with that. However, each of the reasons you give for being against the intervention could just as easily be used against Kadhafi. Kadhafi is not representative of the nation. Kadhafi took power with a small group of acolytes who conducted a coup d’état. After the coup d’état, he dissolved all the laws and largely failed to replace them with new laws. Instead, he replaced them with his cult of personality. He never ran for an honest election. He murdered thousands of people during his reign of 40 years for being no more than conscientious dissenters. And when, after 40 years, the people rose up against him in nationwide peaceful protests - I am talking about the period between January 15 and February 13, before the riots in Benghazi - he began murdering them. He had murdered between 250-300 people during this one month. And when the people were tired of it and began to arm themselves, he used heavy weaponry against his population, which includes civilians who had nothing to do with the protests and riots. So, no, it is not ideal to have NATO involved and, no, it is not ideal that former members of Kadhafi’s regime are involved in the NTC. However, given the 40 years of murder, I think it could easily be argued that this is a necessary evil to oust Kadhafi and his cult of personality and his violence. Once he is gone, the country can begin building a new democratic state.

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   Hakim 2011-6-7

   Human intelligence is both amazing and disappointing. Man is made as such so that every contradiction and emotion clouds will all too often cloud his reason far from the Kantian “pure reason”. We only consider one aspect at a time for a problem that has multiple facets, and that is why it is impossible to find the best solution. In order to fight a dictatorship, a group of people who, by definition, are not representative because according to their own statements nothing was prepared in advance, took up arms and called for NATO to support them. Now, a combat has been raging for more than two months with thousands of deaths, injuries, refugees, broken families, broken lives, children forever traumatised, a destroyed country, the sovereignty of a state compromised. And all of this for what? Not even a revolution is justified at this price? The worst part is that the TNC, which is not representative, not elected and does not have the Libyan people’s mandate has engaged the entire country in a dead-end path! In sum, to escape cholera, it has chosen AIDS!? Those who claim to be tomorrow’s leaders demonstrate the same pathology of the tyrant. Nothing in this programme resembles up close or from far off a democratic process. It is quite the opposite. May they know that the people will continue to take interest in the fate of the brother Libyan people. We will see what a “revolution” means for these figures who, yesterday, were still henchmen of the man they are denouncing today. The only ones who are raving about them are Bernard-Henry Lévy and Sarkozy, who are far from being children at heart. As for the crusading character of NATO’s and France’s involvement, these are the declarations of Claude Guéan, French Minister of the Interior. He knows what he is talking about!!!

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   Essid 2011-6-6

   To Ahmed- The “Guide of the Revolution” of which you speak never guided any revolution; he led a coup d’état. Moreover, the cowardly Kadhafi waited until King Idris I had left the country to get medical care to lead his coup d’état. Thus, his role was not “Guide of the Revolution” but “Boss of a Coup d’État against a Leader who was not there”. And the first thing that Kadhafi did in power was suspend all of the laws, including the constitution, and establish what he called the “sharia”. However, according to Kadhafi, “sharia” meant monitoring and purging (murdering) all possible dissenters. Indeed, within a few years of his taking power, nearly 20% of the country worked in surveillance for “revolutionary” committees. And, since most families have a relative who disappeared at the hands of Kadhafi’s henchmen, it is clear that he caused thousands of deaths. So, if he was the “Guide”, then shouldn’t the people have wanted to follow him? And if the people wanted to follow him, then why did he devote so much of the country’s resources to monitoring and purging his own population? And you are certainly wrong that they provided weapons to the protesters in February. The protesters armed themselves by breaking into police stations and barracks, and they did this in response to the fact that Kadhafi ordered his army to shoot them when they were protesting peacefully. Lastly, your callous remarks about the natural disasters in the United States are shameful. You think God is punishing innocent bystanders for the decisions of their political leaders? In that case, watch out for getting struck by lightning.

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   Ahmed 2011-5-30

   I would like to tell the Guide of the Revolution to stay strong because the Good Lord is with you and your people. We will support you forever and ever. You will defeat these imperialists who are destroying your country for their own interests because the civilians do not carry weapon and these destructive countries are furnishing them with these arms. But, by the grace of God you will win. You see what is going on in the United States with the tornadoes. That is the beginning, and the worst is yet to come. Know that those who gave up on you in this combat are hypocrites, but do not be discouraged because we will always be with you and your people.

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    hamid 2011-5-29

    I cannot manage to understand this situation or scenario. Mr Kadhafi prefers to kill his own to maintain himself as the “Guide of the Arab States.” This is an unbelievable story among the Arab leaders.

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    JERIDI ALI 2011-5-28

    Even if Libya wants a cease-fire, I think that the Westerners will not accept this. Moreover, the primary conditions for the rebels is that Kadhafi leave. This shows that we are in an impasse. Journalist Youssef Ali knows in advance that Libya will be occupied by Europe, which is the case for Iraq for the Americans. Their aims are oil and gas.

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    Anonymous 2011-5-27

    This request for a cease-fire comes too late. It is a desperate attempt from a cowardly tyrant who is trying to save his skin. But the world and the Libyans above all else are tired of Kadhafi. They want him to leave. Many want to see him leave to the afterlife. If he is lucky, he will head to the International Criminal Court and will end up at the end of a rope like Saddam and Mussolini. But, if he falls into the hands of his victims, the scenario will pay out difficultly. Meanwhile, time is running out. NATO wants to quickly move on to more serious things. The Russians have understood this. At the G8 meeting in France, they joined the thesis that Kadhafi has lost all credibility and no longer has a future in Libya. The only language for tyrants like him is that of force. Ben Ali and Mubarak left under the pressure of the streets. The Ivorian Gbagbo plunged his country into a civil war that he lost. These tyrants defied popular will to the last moment, spilling blood. They were blind with the arrogance of power, which they thought allowed them to do anything. In Kadhafi’s case, the international community was the one that had to intervene to protect the population against this tyrant, who had gone crazy. The coalition put an end to the era of Kadhafi and acted in conformance with the United Nations Security Council’s resolution. During his last visit to New York to sit in on the opening of the United Nations General Assembly, Kadhafi could not find any better way to draw attention to himself than to tear up the United Nations Charter during his time to speak. This charter has come back right in his face like a boomerang today. Now that his nose is bleeding, he is starting to cry.

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    Tom Paine 2011-5-27

    Kaddafi's days are numbered and that is why the Russians are now meddling in this affair. When the Libyans were getting raped, tortured and slaughtered by Kaddafi's paid thugs, they did nothing to stop the slaughter...just like in Serbia.. Now, with Kaddafi looking at his last moments, Russia is claiming to have a "deal" in the works for a cease-fire, doubtlessly hoping to preserve this longtime vampire and his bloodsucking family in power, and establish a very grateful relationship in Libya. All this shows is Russia (like China's) interest in what Libya has, not its suffering people. The Russians as is the Venezuelan strongman, Hugo Chavez, are in Kaddafi's court and have no good will for the Libyan people. The hypocrisy and cynicism of the former USSR continues in todays Russian Empire.. Down with Kaddafi and his "friends" and Up with Democracy for the whole Arab...and Iranian, world.

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